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    No, this is not Photoshop, it is not graphic art, it is GENUINE. This was found in Uncharted 4, now, it's not easy to see, but I'm sure the title reads: The Last of Us: American Daughters; and we can clearly see a red-haired pregnant girl.

    Unfortunately, this girl has a gas mask on therefore we do not know if she is Ellie. In fact, she ISN'T Ellie! Back in the first game, after Tess' death and Joel and Ellie ran into the subway, there were spores and Ellie wore no gas mask, so, why would she be wearing one if she's immune. I don't think that this is Ellie, it might be, but I'm theorizing that it isn't, so you can drop the: 'Ellie's Pregnant!' cards.

    Still, who is this girl? Will she be the main focus in The Last of Us 2? Does Ellie or Joel or both have to 'escort' this girl to safety like in the first game?

    What do YOU think?

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    • You bring up good points about Ellie's immunity, but I think it MIGHT be her still--or likely someone similar but straight given that Ellie's gay. Same hair, same build. Maybe they're taking on the government who's using tear gas or something along those lines? 

      I really hope we don't do another escort campaign. It'd feel like a retread, literally. 

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    • Could be tear gas, but I and probably a thousand others predicted Ellie being pregnant; when I first heard about it I was barely shocked.

      Well, who knows if it is Ellie or not? Just have to wait till The Last of Us: American Daughters is released. In 2-5 years time.

      I've got a theory here: If Ellie's pregnant, her child will be immune, so will that child's child and so on and so on, until we eventually have a rising number of immune people. However, if people are immune then there's no need to have Quarantine Zones anymore. The government would hunt and kill Ellie so that they could stay in power of the people. What'd you think?

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    • It looks to me like it says Just Us. However I don't think that ND would leave something like that for no reason.

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    • Harkon Romney wrote: It looks to me like it says Just Us. However I don't think that ND would leave something like that for no reason.

      I'm not discriminating you here, but Just Us - The Last of Us - ST US.

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    • The placement of the "US" suggests that there's another, short word before it on the same line.

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    • Brainwasher5 wrote: The placement of the "US" suggests that there's another, short word before it on the same line.

      I think that word is OF

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    • "God willing, we'll all meet again in Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money!"

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    • It looks like a comic, probably bridging some gaps in the stories.

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    • The design of the poster is clearly a nod to the American Dreams comic. The same artist, style, and similar title. Also, I'm quite certain that that is Ellie, same hair and build -- as Brainwasher said -- and similar clothing to that of American Dreams.

      This is nothing but a silly Easter egg and nod to the comics. I'm sure this has absolutely no ties to the future of the series, and I'm sure we won't be seeing Ellie pregnant.

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    • Maybe its Ellies Mother Anna? That would explain the Mask ,,, I really hope that theyre not doing a prequel ... i also think it would be stupid to feature a pregnant Ellie in a sequel ... i guess they just put the poster in the game to fan the flames, wouldnt read too much into it.

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    • 141.48.176.235 wrote: Maybe its Ellies Mother Anna? That would explain the Mask ,,, I really hope that theyre not doing a prequel ... i also think it would be stupid to feature a pregnant Ellie in a sequel ... i guess they just put the poster in the game to fan the flames, wouldnt read too much into it.

      Funny you should mention that it's a prequel, did you read this first:http://gamingbolt.com/could-the-last-of-us-2-be-a-prequel-starring-ellies-mother

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    • AWC brings up an excellent point. There's definitely some Ellie deja vu there, and having it be her mother makes sense. 

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    • It actually would be pretty awesome for a comic showing Ellie's birth and more info on her mother.

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    • Just an fyi. You do realize you overwrote an image of One Night Live in uploading that image, right? The one where Joel's singing to Ellie? Check that image's file history to see what I mean, and maybe revert back to the original.

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    • That does need fixing, but we need both images on the wiki.

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    • Bane7670 wrote: Just an fyi. You do realize you overwrote an image of One Night Live in uploading that image, right? The one where Joel's singing to Ellie? Check that image's file history to see what I mean, and maybe revert back to the original.

      I've changed the name from Ellie to Ellie Pregnant. Why the 'uck is a picture of Joel singing to Ellie named 'Ellie'? Shouldn't it be named 'Joel Singing' or 'Singing to Ellie' instead of just Ellie?!

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    • Bit of a thread-necro but, IMO at least, it makes sense that Ellie would normally use a mask when in a spore-infested area because it hides that she's immune. That's the sort of reasonable precaution that I can imagine Joel drilling into her head.

      FWIW, I suspect that American Daughters might be an early, rejected name or even entire concept for the TLoU sequel. From the official release teaser, it looks like they're just calling it 'The Last of Us Part II'. That said, this might be a planned DLC (Joel and Ellie going to see Sarah's grave or something); the naming scheme format follows that of 'Left Behind'.

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    • I've a theory based on no evidence bar a few hints here and there like the picture at the start of the thread whcih got me thinking that this could be a road that they go down.. Anyway here goes:

      Ellie is imprgnated possibly on a lie, where the lie is that she may be able to pass on her immunity to her offspring. However, the child is taken from her after birth (possibly Fireflies stillafter a cure and the child would be a possible specimin). Her plan is then to go after those that took the child in revenge whcih fits with the 'hate' slant the storylie is taking this time round. I've read elsewhere that the tatoo may signify 'growth' which fits with the pregnancy theme.

      Joel isn't dead as some theorise. Story wise it's too obvious a twist and would become a cliche in a game that avoided them throughout. I can't see it starting now. Although it has been said he seems passive in the way he speaks to her, I think this is him coming round to the fact he can't change Ellie's plan after a disagreement previously. It's him basically asking is she is sure this is what she wants to do in the hope she may change her mind, but not really expecting that to be so. From here he goes along with it.

      I think the Fireflies are involved in this somehow because of the roadsign in the town where Ellie appears to have killed some humans. Could be involved in the plot and she starts hunting them down. Why Fireflies? Because of the actions Joel took at the end of the first game. If there were facations left, and there is reason to believe that there were, he basically wiped out their medical operation and killed the leader in cold blood to save in their view the one person who could save humanity. I can't see that thread from the story going away.

      Just a thought on where this is heading, but  it's exciting at last to have confirmation that the second part is coming out!

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    • +1 to this just being a nod to Ellie's mom. That's what I always assumed it was. I don't think it's some sort of grand spoiler for TLOU pt.II, as that would be a pretty glaring plot point for them to spoil of their own game (if it were in fact a pregnant Ellie, which I don't think it is.) It's also much more of a nod to Faith Erin Hicks from American Dreams, as has been pointed out, and there's even the Dark Horse logo in the corner. If it were a reference to Pt.II, why do it in Hick's style and as a poster for a comic, not a game?

      Plus, why would it be called "American Daughters" if it were Ellie? She's still pregnant, how would she even know the sex of the baby? And how would that even be releavant to be in the title? I think the title gives away that it's Ellie's mom (referencing the baby being a girl- only reason that would be important is that the baby is Ellie.) Otherwise who cares that Ellie is pregnant with a girl?

      There's also an easter egg in TLOU where you find newspapers with a headline along the lines of "Uncharted 13- Justin Bieber as Drake!" So, take easter eggs with a grain of salt, lol.

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    • FWIW, if I had a say, I'd have 'American Daughters' to be TLoU Part II's flashback DLC. Post-quest, Ellie has got herself pregnant (maybe she doesn't even know it at first) and starts to show whilst travelling to Texas with Joel, Tommy and Maria to see Sarah's grave. Along the way, we get to learn more about Ellie's backstory, get to learn more about Sarah and Joel the father and, finally, how Ellie came to be Joel's surrogate daughter in his heart.

      I suppose it doesn't have to be on the road. The 'current time' segment could just as easily be set at Jackson in an expanded map file that the player can explore at leisure (and occasionally help defend) in between flashback segments.

      Right at the end, Ellie gives birth to a little girl and the DLC ends with her asking Joel's permission to name her daughter 'Sarah'.

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    • Seriously, what is up with all these necro threads? 

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    • The Part II confirmation has stirred up the fandom but there is very little extra to talk about so reviving recent (i.e. less than a year old) threads is all there is to do!

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    • BenRG wrote: The Part II confirmation has stirred up the fandom but there is very little extra to talk about so reviving recent (i.e. less than a year old) threads is all there is to do!

      Would it not be better to rebrand it as a new thread to avoid being necro? Just a suggestion ^^

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    • I am suprised and very happy that The Last of Us part 2 exists, and if anybody remembers me they would know why.  :)

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    • BenRG wrote:
      Ellie has got herself pregnant...

      Right at the end, Ellie gives birth to a little girl and the DLC ends with her asking Joel's permission to name her daughter 'Sarah'.

      Ellie is gay. I seriously don't get why TLoU wiki has had to address this so many times. People are like, really determined for her to get pregnant and be a child-rearing mother type on this wiki. It was creepier back when they were saying this when she was a 13 year old child than when she's nearly a full-grown adult now, but it's still creepy.

      Even if she weren't gay that story has been done...a lot...and it's super cliche. ND has stated that they wouldn't make TLoU2 if there weren't a good story worth telling and something this overdone definitely wouldn't cut it, if we're holding this game to the same standards as the first.

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    • Brainwasher5 wrote:
      BenRG wrote:
      Ellie has got herself pregnant...

      Right at the end, Ellie gives birth to a little girl and the DLC ends with her asking Joel's permission to name her daughter 'Sarah'.

      Ellie is gay. I seriously don't get why TLoU wiki has had to address this so many times. People are like, really determined for her to get pregnant and be a child-rearing mother type on this wiki. It was creepier back when they were saying this when she was a 13 year old child than when she's nearly a full-grown adult now, but it's still creepy.


      Yeah, have to concur here that it makes me uncomfortable as well how many people just completely ignore her gay-ness in favor of these pregnancy headcanons. Not to mention that the "child rearing mother type" is, like, the furthest thing from her personality, lol.

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    • Why does Ellie being gay have anything to do with it? She might decide that she wants a child. She knows how to get one.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      Why does Ellie being gay have anything to do with it? She might decide that she wants a child. She knows how to get one.

      It's got everything to do with it... Besides, I don't really see Ellie wanting to have a child with 19 and in a post apocalyptic world...

      I feel like they would have to change too many things about Ellie that were established in the first game in order to introduce a pregnancy plot. It would feel forced, and like it didn't evolve naturally from her character.

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    • Not necessarily. Consider Ellie's "I must make it all worthwhile" martyr/self-sacrifice complex. It wouldn't be too hard to explain her actions using that. She doesn't have to be of a maternal mindset (indeed, her own mother said that she was not in her farewell note); all is needed is for her to have decided that, her own feelings aside, she had a 'duty' to do this.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      Not necessarily. Consider Ellie's "I must make it all worthwhile" martyr/self-sacrifice complex. It wouldn't be too hard to explain her actions using that. She doesn't have to be of a maternal mindset (indeed, her own mother said that she was not in her farewell note); all is needed is for her to have decided that, her own feelings aside, she had a 'duty' to do this.

      It wouldn't be hard to explain it like that, but that explanation just wouldn't make much sense. I don't see what a martyr complex would have to do with her having a child (nor self sacrifice, for that matter).

      In order to introduce that plotline, they'd have overlook her sexuality (keep in mind, sex hasn't been a big theme in the first part), and seeing as the decision to make Ellie gay was met with a very positive response, it would be weird for Naughty Dog to reverse that decision.

      Ellie's mom probably got pregnant by accident, and that's something that's not likely to happen to a gay person...

      Besides, Naughty Dog seems like a company which strives to create an original plot, and the whole "we have to repopulate the earth" thing has been done to death...

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    • As well as being the ultimate in straight male fantasy, which would be, again, cliche. 

      We have like, all of the straight protagonists. Ever. In a solid 95%+ of all video games. It would be a disservice to any LGBTQ person to force Ellie into a traditional maternal role. It'd be like taking the one game with a male Asian character with depth and then make him white.

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    • Yeah, Naughty Dog aren't going to do a 'repopulate Earth' storyline in this game. One of the major themes of the game is decay; decay of relationships, the world and mankind in general. Plus, it's not designed to have an idyllic ending; it would be extremely out of its genre to do so. The only way they could bring it in is through another character or the Fireflies proposing it as a possible solution - evolution through birth and such.

      But even then, to maintain a tragic and decay theme, it would have to fail like it did in the first game to maintain the tragic and futile element of the world. As I concluded in my blog; survival of the fittest over restoration to the way things were.

      Long story short, it's just out of the games context and themes to bring in a massive focus on sex and restoring humanity successfully.

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    • Not 'repopulate' as much as 'spread immunity'. Something that would be virtually impossible in scientific terms but, hey, Ellie isn't a biologist.

      Despite everything, to me, the theme of TLoU was about how the shoots of hope appear amongst the ashes of destruction. Yes, the big players (FEDRA and the Fireflies) had failed; humanity's science and technology had failed (and, indeed, had seemingly been part of the cause of the destruction). However, there was Jackson and there was Tommy, Maria and Ellie. The individual men and women were surviving and rebuildilng, no matter how slowly. Even characters like Joel, who had previously been destructive influences, were looking positively at the possibility of rebuilding in some way. To me, the point of Bill was that he was the antitype of this lesson: A man so afraid that he had walled himself up alone, waiting to finally die in the crypt he had fashioned with his own hands (in a church no less).

      This may be entirely my viewpoint but, to me, The Last of Us is about the death of the old world and the old way of doing things but the earliest sparks of the birth of a new world arising in its places. All that was needed was the courage to believe and to try.

      There have been extinction-level events before and humanity has survived and rebuilt. Why not this time too?

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    • Well humanity is surviving, in the form of (as you said) Tommy's community, the dictatorship of thr military and the scattered Fireflies. It's not that humanity will die out, though there is the view of the inevitability we as a race will go extinct, it's more on that (for the genre in TLOU) a happy ending is unrealistic therefore unsatisfying. While a fairytale ending of Ellie's immunity being passed on is ideal, it's not true; it's all a pipe dream.

      There are also other major themes in the game including (but not exclusive to) suffering, death, nature, relationships (though there are tons within this), fate/determinism, and love.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      Why does Ellie being gay have anything to do with it? She might decide that she wants a child. She knows how to get one.


      Really, ANYTHING to do with it? You don't see how her being gay is, I dunno, a significant barrier to her (accidentally?!) becoming pregnant? 19 year old lesbians, in the apocalypse no less, are not going around just dying to get preggers. When gay women DO decide to have children (in our society) it is done overwhelmingly through careful planning at an older age (30+), through adoption or surrogacy, and with a partner. Being pregnant is not just NBD medically, physically, or mentally. In fact, it's potentially deadly in Ellie's situation without access to modern medical care.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      Not 'repopulate' as much as 'spread immunity'. Something that would be virtually impossible in scientific terms but, hey, Ellie isn't a biologist.

      This may be entirely my viewpoint but, to me, The Last of Us is about the death of the old world and the old way of doing things but the earliest sparks of the birth of a new world arising in its places. All that was needed was the courage to believe and to try.

      I'm sorry, I just don't find it believable at all that Ellie, as a gay 19 year old, is going to decide that she wants to get herself pregnant to "spread her immunity" despite that not making biological sense, nor her having any indication that she could do that. She's not a biologist, but she's also not stupid. Not to mention, I'm sure there are other people at Tommy's who aren't stupid either.

      See, I think that The Last of Us is about Joel and Ellie. It is not about the worldbuilding. ND built the whole world of TLOU around these two characters, not the other way around. Neil even said that he tried to make stories set in this world with different characters but it didn't feel right, because TLOU has always been about Joel and Ellie. The focus has never been on humanity at large and on building a "new world," or anything at that level. The whole immunity plot device was just an excuse to get these two characters together and to give Joel that choice in the end.

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    • MayonnEgg wrote:


      Really, ANYTHING to do with it? You don't see how her being gay is, I dunno, a significant barrier to her (accidentally?!) becoming pregnant? 19 year old lesbians, in the apocalypse no less, are not going around just dying to get preggers. When gay women DO decide to have children (in our society) it is done overwhelmingly through careful planning at an older age (30+), through adoption or surrogacy, and with a partner. Being pregnant is not just NBD medically, physically, or mentally. In fact, it's potentially deadly in Ellie's situation without access to modern medical care.

      No, nothing to do with it at all. Ellie isn't in a normal situation, even for her abnormal times, so it is relatively easy to write her behaving abnormally, unreasonably and, by any objective measure, stupidly based on curiority or a wrong-headed world-view.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      MayonnEgg wrote:


      Really, ANYTHING to do with it? You don't see how her being gay is, I dunno, a significant barrier to her (accidentally?!) becoming pregnant? 19 year old lesbians, in the apocalypse no less, are not going around just dying to get preggers. When gay women DO decide to have children (in our society) it is done overwhelmingly through careful planning at an older age (30+), through adoption or surrogacy, and with a partner. Being pregnant is not just NBD medically, physically, or mentally. In fact, it's potentially deadly in Ellie's situation without access to modern medical care.

      No, nothing to do with it at all. Ellie isn't in a normal situation, even for her abnormal times, so it is relatively easy to write her behaving abnormally, unreasonably and, by any objective measure, stupidly based on curiority or a wrong-headed world-view.

      Wow, you're actually serious. All I can say at this point is that you seem woefully clueless about how actual living, breathing women think about their own bodies.

      Signed, a living, breathing woman.

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    • Believe it or not, gay people aren't into having heterosexual relationships.

      Let's talk the whole thing out logically, because for some reason the Let's Make Ellie Pregnant team invariably seems to think that Ellie doing so is somehow a sound idea and that logic is on their side.

      Getting pregnant is not a plus to a sexual relationship, especially not in a post-apocalyptic hellhole populated by murderous government agent types and cannibals. No sane person would want to get pregnant in such a situation. And even if she did to "spread her immunity", we're assuming that she'd survive her hypothetical pregnancy (almost certainly not the case; lack of food or medical equipment alone would likely see to that, let alone the constant threat of murder); we're assuming that she'll pass her immunity to her hypothetical children (no medical way of knowing if this is true; maybe the parts of her genes that carry the immunity won't carry over); we're not sure that her hypothetical kids, IF she doesn't die and IF they're immune, would survive. I mean, they'd be freaking babies in a place where everyone is trying to kill them. And even IF she survives a pregnancy, gives birth to an immune kid, and the kid grows up despite all odds, that's just like, one kid. The rest of humanity's still not immune. They'd have to go down literally dozens of generations and fornicate like rabbits, each carrying their own risk of dying just to do this stupid idea, to even make up anything close to an immune community, and that's assuming their community isn't destroyed first, like all the other communities that didn't make it.

      Immunization hardly makes you invincible, either. You're still gonna die from any other threat. Immunization is more of a convenience of not having to wear gas masks than a save-the-world mechanic, because honestly most people do not seem to survive their first clicker encounter anyway.

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    • It really never fails to make me chuckle as I read people applying science, logic and their own rational though-processes to the irrational choices made by a non-scientist in a post-apocalyptic scenario who is suffering from a large parcel of guilt and survivor complexes.

      Aaannnd... Branwashed, when did 'relationship' beyond 'male she trusts' come into this or even get implied?

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    • The part where he bangs her so she can get into the baby-pumpin' business. 

      She has no motive. At all. She's not romantically interested in men, and it drastically decreases her chances of survival, and even if she did have a kid they'd probably die very quickly, so there is literally no reason she'd want to have sex with a dude. 

      Contrary to what you might believe women tend to not want to have babies when it'd be a terrible idea to have babies. 

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    • I don't understand why everyone insists on Ellie being gay simply for having romantic ties to Riley. Does the term Bisexual ring a bell in anyone's head? 

      I'm not hating on gays mind you, but you guys are a little close-minded to the possibility that Riley might be bi, but not fully gay. 

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    • Besides, the wiki never confirmed her sexuality, only its possibility. Maybe Ellie is Bi and managed to find someone she liked? Possibly a minor character that won't be mentioned and maybe her getting pregnant is a nod to modern society's open-mindedness about sex.

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    • 113.210.199.168 wrote:
      Besides, the wiki never confirmed her sexuality, only its possibility. Maybe Ellie is Bi and managed to find someone she liked? Possibly a minor character that won't be mentioned and maybe her getting pregnant is a nod to modern society's open-mindedness about sex.

      Because ND literally said she was gay in multiple interviews. Google it.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      It really never fails to make me chuckle as I read people applying science, logic and their own rational though-processes to the irrational choices made by a non-scientist in a post-apocalyptic scenario who is suffering from a large parcel of guilt and survivor complexes.

      Aaannnd... Branwashed, when did 'relationship' beyond 'male she trusts' come into this or even get implied?

      The fact that you think that a young lesbian needs to be a scientist to not have any desire or not see any logical point to getting pregnant in the zombie apocalypse to turn herself into some weird immunity guinea pig is much more chuckle-worthy, if we're gonna talk about that. Is anybody here who finds your headcannon unrealistic a scientist? I'm definitely not.

      Having characters do stupid things that make no sense (biologically or to their characters) and then just saying "well, they're dumb and not a scientist" is a terrible storytelling excuse. Saying that because she has past trauma means that she's literally insane and incapable of rational thought and therefore anything goes is frankly, insulting to survivors of abuse and trauma (especially female survivors, since this discussion is so gendered.)

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    • I'm not sure if I want to get into this, but let's say Ellie got pregnant, whether before or in Part II or elsewhere. Has anyone considered the possibility that she was raped? It's a screwed up world we've seen already and it almost happened once. It could, theoretically, happen again. I doubt that she has ready access to birth control or abortion clinics, so she'd be forced to carry whatever child she conceived, wouldn't she?

      Plus, they mentioned as PlayStation Experience that Ellie was shaking because she's "seen some shit." That would be the kind of thing that would do that to her.

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    • Bane7670 wrote: I'm not sure if I want to get into this, but let's say Ellie got pregnant, whether before or in Part II or elsewhere. Has anyone considered the possibility that she was raped? It's a screwed up world we've seen already and it almost happened once. It could, theoretically, happen again. I doubt that she has ready access to birth control or abortion clinics, so she'd be forced to carry whatever child she conceived, wouldn't she?

      Plus, they mentioned as PlayStation Experience that Ellie was shaking because she's "seen some shit." That would be the kind of thing that would do that to her.

      Well, we're more responding to a particular theory of Ellie getting herself pregnant by choice because... reasons.

      Rape is certainly a real threat in that world, but I highly doubt that ND would choose to reveal such a sensitive and huge detail like Ellie being raped and carrying a rape baby in an Easter egg in the happy go lucky epilogue of Uncharted 4- on a poster in a teen girl's bedroom no less. Seems to be in exceedingly poor taste. Also, I would never refer to someone being raped as "seeing some shit," which also comes across as poor taste, which would be uncharacteristic of ND.

      It's pretty obvious to me that the woman on the poster is Anna, Ellie's mother, as I explained in an earlier post.

      • Also, even without abortion clinics, there are ways of inducing abortion... they're just not as safe and effective as going to an actual clinic.
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    • MayonnEgg wrote: It's pretty obvious to me that the woman on the poster is Anna, Ellie's mother, as I explained in an earlier post.

      Oh yeah no, that poster's totally in reference to Anna. I just brought up the rape angle since no one else had yet. I can still see Ellie voluntarily procreating in some way... but I don't think that'll be the premise of Part II.

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    • Well, despite the incredibly darker tone, her becoming pregnant by rape is certainly more plausible than doing it optionally. I just feel it is best avoided entirely from a storytelling point. Also, why does Ellie have to be the one to do this? There are plenty of other women out there.

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    • Snivystorm wrote:
      Well, despite the incredibly darker tone, her becoming pregnant by rape is certainly more plausible than doing it optionally. I just feel it is best avoided entirely from a storytelling point. Also, why does Ellie have to be the one to do this? There are plenty of other women out there.

      I agree that rape would make for a very controversial/dark plotline. As for Ellie getting pregnant, I guess some people feel that she owes it to the world to pass on her immunity. If that's even possible.

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    • It is not The Last Of Us: American Daughters because you would be able to see part of the E in the word THE. But if it is one way that she could have lost her imunity is through sexual intercourse the infection might have transfered from one body to another.

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    • Its kind of annoying to me that Neil thinks one kiss when you're 13 makes you GAY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE FOREVER. Ashley was more open, she gets that she could be bi or just had a one time interest in her very close friend who happened to be female...

      But whatever im not saying she's not gay, if Neil says she is, ya know, she's his invention, she must be.

      Is everyone missing the poppies on that poster? 

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    • If only people would question the assumption that a straight character would be STRAIGHT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE FOREVER with such rigorousness.

      As for the flowers, they could possibly be poppies, or any other flower that is red (or reddish-purple). Do you feel like they have some significance?

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    • well once you're around 20 your sexuality is a little more stable, i used to call myself bi in my teens now im not so sure its like, whatever..

      Poppies symbolise peace after war, or rememberance, makes me think the poster is set after the first game, or further in the future, but i doubt its ellie.

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    • Who knows, perhaps we are reading a little too much into it. It is just an Easter egg after all, released at a time when development was at its earliest stage.

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    • I understand that sexuality can be fluid. I'm just pretty suspicious of these days that people are so extraordinarily determined about trying to get Ellie to not be gay, in any fashion whatsoever. I've never seen any other video game character's sexuality examined, questioned, or even attacked in such a manner. Not even other lesbian video game characters, such as Max from Life is Strange. It's bizarre.

      The flowers look more purple than the signature red poppies are known for. Poppies also grow very thickly, particularly over battlefields. I'm not saying that it's impossible that the flowers are poppies, but I can't help but feel that if the developers WERE going for poppies and poppy symbolism, they would have made it clearer.

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    • i guess it could be the fact that she's only 14, and the apcolyptic setting, it just feels a little..odd.. maybe im being like biased or something.. in any other like modern set game it wouldnt jar so much perhaps, i've never played it but i can imagine that fitting in "life is strange" like no question, i guess cause that is mostly about teens and life being a bit confusing and stuff. in this setting it just doesnt seem right to make a point of a 14 year old having a strong sexual preference but whatever i should get over it. 

      they scream poppies to me! i dont know how it could be clearer, maybe put like a soldier on there in a gas mask with a gun? oh wait :P 

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    • also i dont think theyd bother putting the flowers so prominently if they werent there for a reason they could have put forget me nots or daffodils (symbolise spring) or just daisies. i guess almost every flower will symbolise something..

      easter eggs are super important for naughty dog! dont you remember how they almost ruined the entire announcement of TLOU in uncharted 3? :P

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    • they scream poppies to me! i dont know how it could be clearer, maybe put like a soldier on there in a gas mask with a gun? oh wait :P 

      Ellie's not a soldier; neither was Ellie's mom or whomever it is likely to be in the picture. They're not in soldier's gear either. There technically was no war fought on American soil in TLoU; more like mass civil unrest. 

      Plenty of flowers grow in fields. A vast majority, in fact. Poppies almost always grow very densely; these don't. While purple poppies exist, they specifically symbolize animal sacrifices during war. Animals aren't that common in TLoU, which is a story mostly focused on human relationships. It'd make much more sense to have the poppies be red or white (symbolizing military or civilian sacrifices respectively), if they WERE poppies at all. 

      The easter egg in uncharted is a newspaper that talks about a fungal outbreak scientists can't seem to stop; it very clearly correlates to TLoU's story. Flowers are extremely common and are present in practically all forms of media that has vegetation in it; sacrifice, IF these flowers are poppies, is an extremely common theme in games and is not specific to TLoU. 

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    • oh..my god you took that too literally.. key words were "gas mask" and "gun" -____-

      i think something must be wrong with your monitor settings because those flowers are red like blood.

      and they are dense enough, the land is somewhat barren and they're on a bit of a hillside. theres plenty of pictures of poppies im looking at right now on google that look exactly the same density. also the picture was drawn by, presumabley,a human, they might have just wanted to give an idea of poppies without overloading...

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    • If the key words are "gas mask" and "gun" why are you so fixated on these poppies. Their symbolism has already being established and dismissed.

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    • oh shiiiit just found an enhanced picture, the flowers are growing on a car, not a hill! daaamn if that aint purely symbolic then.. why..

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    • On my monitor, they're about the same color as "American Daughters", which is resolutely purple. I guess I could try looking on other computers or changing my monitor settings, but all the other colors seem to look right.

      Why is there hair in the picture? Why are there clouds in the picture? Why are there trees in the picture? Sometimes a flower is just a flower. It makes the ground (or in this case car) look more interesting. Not everything has to be symbolism.

      Civilians use gas masks. (American) Civilians often have guns. Soldiers are soldiers because they have uniforms designating them so. Many military personnel don't have guns (or gas masks). I didn't.

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    • Exactly ^^^ this ain't English Literature or Film Studies. Not everything included has massive amounts of meaning. Now the game itself is another matter but an Easter egg is just that, a minor hint to get fans hyped, nothing more nothing less.

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    • to me they are almost the same color as american daughters but are a bit more like the womans under shirt.

      the hair is very similar to ellies perhaps a hint towards her, its reddish but much longer than ellie would have hers. the clouds are very faint to me, but they're low clouds, much different to floaty fluffy happy clouds. but they are white and clean and have freshness. the wall looks like a quarentine zone wall and she is on the outside of it.. why would you draw flowers growing out a car man.. though it does look cool

      yeah im pretty crazy, i spend half of any game staring at the scenery xD not for clues i just like details and finding cool things..

      i design and i think like if you're creative and interested in the story or character you can get wayy carried away with putting every little thing into it, that people probably wont even notice but make it fit together and symbolise something to me :) 

      yeah i dunno bout real war n stuffs, if you were in world war 2 i hope you'd have had a gas mask.. recent wars, maybe not.. i guess thats why you took more meaning from it than i meant

      the artist doesnt seem like the symbolism type though, he does lots of sketches "trying things out" "this didnt fit the character" heres what he said about this picture: The Last of Us - American Daughters. Such a treat to work on. Also I can't elaborate on the narrative to this image.

      so its definitely something!!

      aanyways im thinking thats ellies mum in the picture, and there might be a comic or dlc about her (i REALLY hope so!) 

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    • Just to clarify, I don't believe chemical weapons were used during WW2. There was certainly high fear of it, but I don't believe it ever occurred.

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    • Snivystorm wrote:
      Just to clarify, I don't believe chemical weapons were used during WW2. There was certainly high fear of it, but I don't believe it ever occurred.


      As far as I know, they weren't used on the battlefield, but they were used during the Holocaust, and there was an accidental release of American mustard gas in Bari, Italy.

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    • Yes, they were sadly used by the Nazis in their efforts to commit genocide, but in terms of the actual war of Allies vs Axis, the use of chemical weapons was (to the best of my knowledge) virtually null. Now WW1 though is the complete opposite; that war was littered with such all over it since its first use in Belgium by the Germans in Ypres I think.

      But this sadly isn't a history wiki, so we should probably get back on topic, :)

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    • who is this girl?

      a red herring diversion, on purpose


      Will she be the main focus in The Last of Us 2?

      she wont even be in it


      Does Ellie or Joel or both have to 'escort' this girl to safety like in the first game?

      naut dog wouldn'r be that stupid.


      What do YOU think?

      I think I'll open another tab and look for ship stories and R34 vids involving Joel.

      And why can't I turn off italics?


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    • LuxiTurna wrote:

      And why can't I turn off italics?


      As you wrote inside the parameters of the quote, so it adapted accordingly. To reply without italics, write outside of </div>

      Hope that clears it up

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    • ahh, ty!

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