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    Question answered.
    07:43, September 11, 2017

    Apparently, FEDRA took control of the U.S. military when the civilian government was removed from power. But 20 years later, it seems like the military is practically in charge of the QZs; there's no mention of any FEDRA officials really doing anything. But we do hear about high-ranking military commanders, such as the General of the Boston Quarantine Zone, who I'm assuming have a lot of power. So, who is technically in charge of the quarantine zones? FEDRA, or the military? Still, we see both "FUCK THE ARMY" and "FUCK FEDRA" grafitti on the walls, so we know that the civilians don't like either of them.

    So, does FEDRA control everything, and just use military troops as muscle?

    Or does the military actually run the show, with FEDRA just having a support role? [ex: providing helpful leaflets to troops and civilians]

    Obviously, FEDRA does not behave like CEDA from Left 4 Dead; we know that FEDRA is not afraid to hurt people in order to ensure national security. It even seems like FEDRA is so similar in aggressiveness to the military, that we often get the two confused.

    What do you guys think?

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    • My guess would be that all higher ranking officials in charge would be working for FEDRA and that they would use the soldiers to guard and maintain the Quarantine Zones. FEDRA is probably the one who supplies the military with food and equipment while the Army guards the FEDRA officials in the Quarantine Zones. Workers for FEDRA also may conscript civilian workers in Quarantine Zones so the Military does not have to worry about it.

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    • Umm....the president? ;) The president is most likely dead though.

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    • There are continuity of government plans in place for such catastrophies.  Essentially, there does exist a list of several hundered names for who becomes the Acting President in the event that the President and Vice President are killed

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    • not to mention that being the head of the state, the president (and his potential successors) are protected by the very best security there is.

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    • I don't think there actually is a president anymore. From what I see, FEDRA has just taken over entirely, because they had the support of the military. The president probably didn't give all this power to the military/FEDRA, they likely just siezed it from him.

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    • In the opening, we hear what sounds like a FEDRA spokesman bragging that with 'the bureaucrats' out of power, they can take the 'necessary steps'. It sounds awfully like the language you see reported in a RL military coup.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      In the opening, we hear what sounds like a FEDRA spokesman bragging that with 'the bureaucrats' out of power, they can take the 'necessary steps'. It sounds awfully like the language you see reported in a RL military coup.

      Exactly. The previous government obviously didn't give them power, otherwise he would have said something more like "With the new jurisdiction we've been given, we can finally take the necessary steps..."

      But, no. He explicitly said the bureaucrats were out of power (i.e. no more president).

      Though, it makes me wonder. The current theory is that FEDRA took over the government with the help of the military. FEDRA presumably initiated a coup, and came out on top because they had the army backing them up. So FEDRA rules over the QZs and the military supports still supports them to this day. I mean, FEDRA could have easily been overthrown by the military over the course of 20 years, but they haven't been. Do they just agree with each other every single time? Or is the more-powerful military just OK with being FEDRA's bitch?

      Here's my theory:

      Maybe in the original U.S. government, FEDRA (unlike other departments) had advocated putting the military in charge. Eventually, the military just took over the original U.S. government and shut all of its departments down. But FEDRA was that one exception, because they were the only department that was nice to the military, simply put. So, the military allows FEDRA to continue to exist. They become best buds, with the military having the job of shooting people and FEDRA having the job of making helpful leaflets. In regards to managing the lives of civilians, both of them cooperate, but the military always gets the final say. FEDRA cannot do anything about the military being in charge even if they wanted to, so things remain the same after 20 years.

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    • IIRC, FEDRA is a merger of FEMA, DHS, CDC and a few other emergency-oriented Federal agencies. It's my guess that, as the outbreak progressed, the government became more and more centralised under the FEDRA umbrella. The few surviving civilian agencies were increasingly part of the FEDRA umbrella organisation. FEDRA liberally used the military to enforce its authority and, by the time of the coup, the two had become somewhat merged together (with FEDRA officials advising the JCS, possibly even sitting on the Joint Chiefs Committee and senior officers advising FEDRA in the same way).

      So, by the time Joel wakes up in his apartment after his nightmare about Sarah's murder, 'FEDRA' and 'The Military' are two sides of the same coin.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      IIRC, FEDRA is a merger of FEMA, DHS, CDC and a few other emergency-oriented Federal agencies. It's my guess that, as the outbreak progressed, the government became more and more centralised under the FEDRA umbrella. The few surviving civilian agencies were increasingly part of the FEDRA umbrella organisation. FEDRA liberally used the military to enforce its authority and, by the time of the coup, the two had become somewhat merged together (with FEDRA officials advising the JCS, possibly even sitting on the Joint Chiefs Committee and senior officers advising FEDRA in the same way).

      So, by the time Joel wakes up in his apartment after his nightmare about Sarah's murder, 'FEDRA' and 'The Military' are two sides of the same coin.

      Yeah, FEDRA seems based off the DHS and FEMA, the latter of which is just a branch of the DHS, even. In the game, the CDC is referenced as being their own separate organization, though.

      It seems possible that FEDRA and the military fused their leaderships together, too. They two are quite difficult to distinguish from one another. Maybe that's why the military still works for FEDRA; they are FEDRA anyway. They could be trying to make it look like FEDRA (a civilian agency, technically) is in charge, just so it doesn't look like that much of a military dictatorship.

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    • Well think about it. I'm sure when the outbreak first occurred all the nations bigwigs were safe and sound, evacuated to specially designated, highly protected compounds. The United States for example has the Senate, President, vice president, house of representatives. Military wise the highest would be the Joint chefs of staff and given that the pandemic is 20 years into it, it wouldn't surprise me if they was still in charge because after all these "important" people have the greatest protection in the time of an emergency situation. Yeah, I'd say the people in charge of FEDRA, Military, whatever you want to call it should be the remnants of the United States Armed forces high command.

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    • fuck, you think this FEDRA thing can be seen as a metaphor, for what could be happening in the real wordl. I mean if you google about what happens in the moment, you can see that FEMA gets about 1,6 billions of bullets. Why is that? Can the game be seen as a warning?

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    • 217.88.130.198 wrote:
      fuck, you think this FEDRA thing can be seen as a metaphor, for what could be happening in the real wordl. I mean if you google about what happens in the moment, you can see that FEMA gets about 1,6 billions of bullets. Why is that? Can the game be seen as a warning?


      Not really, considering that the whole premise of the game is so out there. Think about it: what are the chances of a strain of Cordecyps mutating to infect humans like it does in the game?

      Also, please watch your language. Swearing is not allowed on this wiki.

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    • Quilboar wrote: Apparently, FEDRA took control of the U.S. military when the civilian government was removed from power. But 20 years later, it seems like the military is practically in charge of the QZs; there's no mention of any FEDRA officials really doing anything. But we do hear about high-ranking military commanders, such as the General of the Boston Quarantine Zone, who I'm assuming have a lot of power. So, who is technically in charge of the quarantine zones? FEDRA, or the military? Still, we see both "FUCK THE ARMY" and "FUCK FEDRA" grafitti on the walls, so we know that the civilians don't like either of them.

      So, does FEDRA control everything, and just use military troops as muscle?

      Or does the military actually run the show, with FEDRA just having a support role? [ex: providing helpful leaflets to troops and civilians]

      ... It even seems like FEDRA is so similar in aggressiveness to the military, that we often get the two confused.

      What do you guys think?

      I think FEDRA and the military are one and the same. If they were not at the start of the cordyceps outbreak, they become that at some point prior to 2033. There is of course some hierarchy within the organization. At this point, until they come up with a vaccine, it is just about survival so I doubt they (FEDRA/the Military) would waste resources battling each other. Especially when they have to keep control of the uninfected and fight off the Fireflies, Hunters, Bandits, and the infected. As awesome as the game is it really only focused on the two characters as we didn't get to see the entire picture of the state of the remnants of the U.S. or the world. So FEDRA/the military being one and the same, it is in charge -- in a few places where QZ's exist at least.

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