Wasn't David about to rape her before she kills him? ("You can try begging" or that line "She's David's new pet"). Nolan North himself said to IGN that he was going to do it.
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@Fanofwiki, no,no,sorry to make you confuse by me,but I thought that I said something wrong till you said don't forgetpeople are new to this wiki. I thought I said some stupid things,I'm so sorry...
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Sorry I'm replying so slowly, I have a new baby which makes my free time sleep time :P I felt like looking at the scene when Ellie was caged it can be open to interpretation but what I took from it (and maybe it's because I'm a woman?) was that David had some feelings for Ellie that weren't strictly rape-y. There's a softness to his face when he tells her shes special, the touch on her hand indicating an interest (romantic or rape-y, we'll never really know I guess), the tilt of his head that I felt showed a vulnerability that you wouldn't see in someone with rape on their mind. I also took the whole cage thing as a security measure for the community while they decided what exactly they were going to do about her I didn't take it as anything else. But I also was effected differently by the game I think because as I said I am a woman, and I have a daughter. The whole thing was such an intense experience for me because relating to Ellie as my daughter was so instant and I felt so strongly that I didn't experience a lot of the moral hang ups during gameplay that I've heard described as far as when the NPC humans would beg for their lives. I never even saw it because I killed everyone and everything that could hurt my 'daughter'. It's possible that I didn't view David's actions as intent on some form of rape because I (Joel) wasn't there to protect her from that and I really... I could deal with zombies easier than I could deal with the thought of something like that. I think this game IS what it is because of the way it gets in your head and effects you as a person. All of us played the same story line, and all of us experienced it differently.
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Well I see on the way that the wikia suggests. David trough the conversations of his mercs, already had an "special one" that as the story don't shows, didn't have a good end; i see that David have an special attraction to her age/profile and not for her personality. In the end of the story, he tries to subdue her, and in the contest, i think he would rape her or at least molestate her emotionally and phisically. The story of the game bring us Strong feelings. I have the same age of joe in the beggining of story and a baby girl, and i see as his attach to her. the only thing i think on that moment, was that joe comes and maul that bastard away from her.
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TheShadowCrow wrote:
Then why are you asking?
Then why are you asking?
I think it was pretty obvious by the hand scene that he's a pedofile.
Why the sarcasm dude? Pretty snarky response.
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Yeah I think he was going to rape her. He was going to use rape one way or another to control her and get her to do what he wanted to help his little group function. The way he pinned her down and told her "you don't know what I'm capable of" was his way of revealing to her that he was going to rape her.
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It woudl have been all nice and peaceful if Ellie acted with more consideration.
It woudl have been all nice and peaceful if Ellie acted with more consideration.
David, as much as he could have been just one of those nice guys, got engraved at the death of his best friend caused by Ellie. Anyone who lost their buddy by an enemy would go after her to take the avenge would they?
This rape concept could have been as simple as that but... I guess people are fantasizing too much about Ellie getting raped by him and being held as a slave. Because no one can deny the fact that Ellie, throughout the game, was what drove guys all of us to keep playing and protect her because we all liked her and acquired a sense of familiarity with her. Of couse, some of the players would have been attracted to Ellie and would entertain themselves by depicting her being raped by david
Well... Those people that fantasize with rape have a big mental problem. I would get away from that people.
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He would not be a pedophile... Why do people refer to Ellie as a kid? She is 14! She is a teenager, in that case he would be a hebephile (anyway only a bit people use that term, generally heterosexual men would like some teenager girl if it's looks like grown women, or if it's enough pretty to them, because they would be ready to have children (from a biological viewpoint; sex appeared to reproduction).
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Quote: He would not be a pedophile... Why do people refer to Ellie as a kid? She is 14! She is a teenager, in that case he would be a hebephile (anyway only a bit people use that term, generally heterosexual men would like some teenager girl if it's looks like grown women, or if it's enough pretty to them, because they would be ready to have children (from a biological viewpoint; sex appeared to reproduction).
The whole hebephile thing has already been mentioned many times, on many threads (including this one).
Please never refer to a woman as "it" again. They are human beings.
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He would not be a pedophile... Why do people refer to Ellie as a kid? She is 14! She is a teenager, in that case he would be a hebephile (anyway only a bit people use that term, generally heterosexual men would like some teenager girl if it's looks like grown women, or if it's enough pretty to them, because they would be ready to have children (from a biological viewpoint; sex appeared to reproduction).
He would not be a pedophile... Why do people refer to Ellie as a kid? She is 14! She is a teenager, in that case he would be a hebephile (anyway only a bit people use that term, generally heterosexual men would like some teenager girl if it's looks like grown women, or if it's enough pretty to them, because they would be ready to have children (from a biological viewpoint; sex appeared to reproduction).
Oh, see guys! David isn't a pedophile, he's just a hebephile! He's not so bad! Lets see, that changes, oh, nothing about him that makes us disgusted with him in the first place. Why does someone always have to come into topics like these and make this pedantic argument? Language is a funny thing, sometimes there are casual uses for terms that also have clinical definitions.
Also, sorry, but 14 is still a kid. See, if we're going to get pedantic, the word "kid" doesn't have an exact definition in regards to age (well, unless we're talking about a baby goat.) Sure, when you're 14, or around 14, you don't feel like a kid, but trust me, you still are (including in the eyes of the law.) Your brain is not as well developed, especially in regards to making important/ possibly destructive decisions for yourself. You're especially vulnerable to being manipulated by older people. Which is (one of the many reasons) why it's gross for adults to go after 14 year-olds, regardless of how much "older" they may rationalize that they look.
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