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Bill/Joel question

When Bill says "i don't owe you THIS much," Joel says "Actually, Bill, you do."

It must have been a hell of a --something--, because Bill goes on an incredibly dangerous mission without the slightest objection.

Oh, he has plenty of objection to smartmouth Ellie, my sass hero! But he never questions that he needs to do all this for Joel.

They both use to be hunters, right? That means they attacked people and took their shit (I think). It had to be MUCH more than merely saving his life. That would happen just by Joel shooting a fungus monster attacking Bill.

Anybody have any idea WTH Joel could have done to make Bill THAT grateful, given the amorality of this world? I can't even think of what it MIGHT be. Has Neil slipped something at a con? Anything?

I'll even entertain baseless suggestions!

PS
Is it possible to use rich text when entering a new topic (like this one)? I hate capitalizing when I really want italics.
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maybe it will be revealed in part II??? :)
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No, I wish there WAS italic too xd
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Probably saved Bill's life alot of times. Hopefully, it's a DLC in TLOU 2. Because alot of people wanna know what happened to Ish from the sewers as well.
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Naw, part 2 will be about the future—the time after part 1 ends and 2 starts. Not pre-joel meets Ellie time. There will be no Bill flashbacks because they couldn't possibly be relevant. (even though he's my fave character after Ellie).

In predict that in that in the 5 years between games, Ellie had a powerful bond with a girlfriend, who the fireflies kill. THAT'S who she is avenging/revenging.

You just wait! I'll say "See, I TOLD you so!"
Wait, so Ellie has a thing with tracer?
But Neil druckman said in the second game you will play as young Ellie too. You fill up some gaps from the first game, like bill and ish.
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► " Neil druckman said in the second game you will play as young Ellie "

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What else did he say? Where did you read this? If he's giving more info about part 2, I wanna know it!
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thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!
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